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[zorzak]

Evo fantje (in punce :P ), v tej temi bom objavljal svoje dosežke, postal kakšne zanimive hande, odgovarjal na razna vprašanja v zvezi s coachingom, mojimi videi itd...
Torej moje ime je Klemen, prihajam iz Nove Gorice, imam 21 let. Trenutno crusham 100$ hyperje na starsih, takoj ko bo br dovolj velik, pa gremo čimprej na 200$-300$.
Ponujam coaching za vse limite, cena po dogovoru, definitivno pa se ne bom spuščal pod 50$/h.
Moj celoten hyper graf do sedaj:

60$+:

100$+:

Posnel sem tudi moj prvi coaching vid za poker pro, ki ga najdete tu:
http://si.pokerpro.cc/video/147-zorz...-hu-hyper.html
Junija imam ogromno obveznosti glede faxa, tako da ne bo dosti grinda in updatanja, bom pa odgovarjal na vsa morebitna vprašanja in izvajal coaching...
Tko da ja majstri, to je to za enkrat gl in ttyl

[mare991]

klemen iz gorice...mogoče pa te poznam

[zorzak]

mogoče... :P

[mare991]

poglej PM.

[zorzak]

Evo eno vprašanje za vas: s katerimi od naslednjih handov bi vi (readless) bluffcatchali river in s katerimi ne? Pa podajte še argumente zravn...
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PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t20
Big Blind: t40
SB (zorzak) (t520)
BB (t480)
SB (zorzak) has M value 8.67
Dealt to SB (zorzak)

Preflop: (Pot is: t60)
SB (zorzak) calls t20, BB checks
Flop: (Pot is t80, 2 players)

BB checks, SB (zorzak) bets t40, BB calls t40
Turn: (Pot is t160, 2 players)

BB checks, SB (zorzak) checks
River: (Pot is t160, 2 players)

BB bets t80, SB (zorzak) calls t80

Total Pot: t320 | Rake: t320
PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t10
Big Blind: t20
SB (zorzak) (t530)
BB (t470)
SB (zorzak) has M value 17.67
Dealt to SB (zorzak)

Preflop: (Pot is: t30)
SB (zorzak) raises to t40, BB calls t20
Flop: (Pot is t80, 2 players)

BB checks, SB (zorzak) checks
Turn: (Pot is t80, 2 players)

BB checks, SB (zorzak) checks
River: (Pot is t80, 2 players)

BB bets t60, SB (zorzak) calls t60

Total Pot: t200 | Rake: t200
PokerStars, No-Limit Hold'em Tournament
Small Blind: t10
Big Blind: t20
SB (zorzak) (t540)
BB (t460)
SB (zorzak) has M value 18
Dealt to SB (zorzak)

Preflop: (Pot is: t30)
SB (zorzak) raises to t40, BB calls t20
Flop: (Pot is t80, 2 players)

BB bets t20, SB (zorzak) calls t20
Turn: (Pot is t120, 2 players)

BB bets t60, SB (zorzak) calls t60
River: (Pot is t240, 2 players)

BB bets t120, SB (zorzak) calls t120

Total Pot: t480 | Rake: t480

[mazho]

1. hand: Ne bi, ker je njegov range praktično samo Ax, Kx, 7x in 4x, včasih še kakšne random over karte.
2. hand: Mogoče celo bi, ker si pokazal šibkost na flopu in turnu.
3. hand: Sicer ne igram tako visoko kot ti, vendar ima po mojih izkušnjah nasprotnik tu zelo pogosto Ax, tako da ne bi bluffcatchal, pa še njegov bet sizing kaže na valuebet.

[smukc]

1. hand zanimiv limp s tvoje strani, sam vedno min open z Q9, na flopu te samo klice, kar verjetno pomeni da flouta z kakim nemogočim hendom kot ja J5 hahahaa, no ampak če resno gledamo, je glede na njegov limp preflop tukajle njegov range tolko weak, da če je v večini primerov na ta board Q9 good, ker predvidevam da 2 ne stavi, tako da je hand suitable za bluffcatchat/ jaz klicem.
2. hand drawy board, i like your check on the flop, turn ti popari tak da ne moreš representat, river da flush in J-ja ti bluffcatchas, mislim da tokrat neuspešno, vendar težko reč, ker sta bla tako neaktivna na prejsnih streetih. sam tukaj klicem glede na tendence nasprotnika, v koliko prej že ne bi uspešno induciral, bi znal zapret river.
3. hand se pravi nasprotnik tirkrat donka vate, ta flop je zelo polarized, zdej glede na to da te ni reraisu pre, ma lahko gnilega asa(s slabim kickerjem), menim da je take bet pattern preveč advanced zanga, da bi tako odigral devetko, je pa težko rečt ker nimamo reada niti ne vemo prot kaksnemu igralcu igramo. zdej na ta board zgleda K7 najlepsi za bluffcatchat do zdej, vendar glede na strong line od nasprotnika menim, da si bil slab. bi pa vsekakor poklical river tudi sam.

[zelenizmaj]

1.hand Turn nisi mogu stavit in representat K, ker si pač limpal pf. Njegov range na flopu je 100%, malokrat ga kaj zadene, dosti krat te bo callav z grabljami, ker ti enostavno ne verjame, da imaš kaj. Ker je limpan pot, tvoj fold equity ni tok visok. Na riverju moraš pot pobrati vsakič tretjič, q9 je dost močen hand za call, ker tle nima dost boljših handev v rangu, kinge, ase, pocket pare mogoče tudi dame, bi on v večini primeru pf minirejznu za value. Na riverju stavi, da pobere z tvojim foldom. Mislim, da boš pot pobral vsakič drugič, tak da je call ev+. Zanimiv limp, mogoče celo bolj profitabilno k pf rejznit in pobrati na flopu. T
2. Hand, njegov sizing na riverju izgleda k da te hoče splab igralec spravit z pota. Na riverju moraš bit dober v 42 %. Kok se je akcija pasivno odvijala, ima tu zlo širok range. Ma tko na oko, recimor da je njegov renge 80 % (nimam pojma kolk če sploh foldajo pf raise) in k2 je dost spredaj. Ma mogi bi meti ja, z k2 več k 42% equityja za call
3 hand. Ta mi je še najbolj na izi, da ga callam, ker ko tko pridejo z minirejzom na flop axx, imajo v veliki večini air. Lepo odigrano, da si mu pusto, da blefira in tako dobil maksimum

[zorzak]

Evo tko zgleda grindanje med izpitnim obdobjem... :/ to je cel mesec btw... :|

[AtomAnt]

glede na to da premaguješ igro in služiš 90e na uro.. se ti ne zdi pametno pavzirati eno leto in poskusiti biti poker pro .. 10k na mesec ni slaba plača. edge so vsake 3 mesece manjši

[zorzak]

AtomAnt wrote: glede na to da premaguješ igro in služiš 90e na uro.. se ti ne zdi pametno pavzirati eno leto in poskusiti biti poker pro .. 10k na mesec ni slaba plača. edge so vsake 3 mesece manjši

hmmm definitivno me faks "stane", ampak no way da bi se odreku študiju (sploh pa ne student life-u nasploh hehe) zgolj zaradi pokra, več mi pomeni to da sem v študentu v Rožni, spoznam ful ljudi, žuram, uživam, se družim, kot pa tistih nekaj extra $
sploh zato ker mislim da smo še daleč daleč od tega da bo poker "dead", mislim da se ne nikamor mudi, folk že 5 let straši, pa še vedno delam(o) 5% ROI v hyperjih, igri kjer je edge najmanjši možen...

[zorzak]

Eden boljših člankov na 2+2...
Systematic Training Drills for NLHE
Deliberate Practice in Poker
As documented by a slew of recent books like Talent is Overrated, The Genius in All of Us, or Talent Code, all the research in the field of expertise and expert performance shows that world class performers in a variety of competitive fields (Ex: Tiger Woods in golf, Bobby Fischer in chess, Yo-Yo-Ma in music, etc.) reached their elite level by following essentially the same formula: obsessively maintaining 3-4 hours per day of “deliberate practice” over a number of years.
You're probably thinking: “Yea yea, I know. Practice makes perfect...blah, blah, blah.” But then you just go off and passively watch a training video, and think you have done your practice for the day. The point from all this research is that if you want to reach a world class level of performance, then playing on auto-pilot in an unthinking way, or casually reviewing your big pot hands, or flying through a few 2p2 hand histories and replying "standard shove, ldo" isn't going to cut it.
Deliberate practice is the key. This is the kind of practice that hurts. It's intensive, focused on making tiny step-by-step improvements in a very narrow area of one's game. It's uncomfortable, where you force yourself to target a specific skill that is just a micro-step beyond your current abilities. You are forced to slow down, make errors, and then correct them. That's how you get better.
For the Tiger Woods' of the world, repetitive breakdown drills are the key. In golf, this translates to hitting 50 putts from exactly 17 feet away on specifically an x-degree incline. In poker, I believe this translates to drills like those listed below. But it all starts with identifying two or three very specific areas of your game you want to work on for the next two days or the next week (for example, 3 bet pots OOP with medium strength hands; or extracting maximum value vs. loose-passives, etc.)
I'd be very interested in hearing your ideas for poker breakdown drills. Here are some that I've done:
A) The Hand-Reading Game
-filter your HEM database for “Saw Showdown = True”
-reply the hand street by street, and verbally articulate (or write down, or enter into Pokerstove) your estimate of villain's hand range on each street. Was the hand he actually showed down within the final narrowed range you gave him?
-keep score, track results. If the hand villain showed down was in the final range you assigned him, you're 1 for 1. If it was outside the range, you're 0 for 1. Do 10 hands every day, and over the course of each week, track improvement in your average score out of 10
-you can add HEM filters to work on your hand-reading in a specific situation, for example when you're facing a flop check-raise, or when a loose-passive c/c's 3 streets, or in 3bet pots, etc.
B) Grinding PokerStove / Mentally Estimating Your Equity vs. a Range
-Get PokerStove out, or an iphone/ipad app like PokerSniper.
-From recent hand histories filtered in a specific area you want to improve upon, plug in your hand vs. villain's range at the critical decision point. BEFORE clicking “Evaluate”, mentally estimate what you think your hand's actual equity will be using a method like WiltonTilt's TUPAC method (see his Math of NL Holdem series on DC) or a similar method described in the book Poker Math that Matters.
-Compare your estimate with the actual equity found in Stove. Track your results every 10 hands. The average gap between your estimate and the actual equity should gradually go down with practice and improvement
-Soon you should be able to do this in real time at the tables. In the meantime, your intutitive sense of equity in various spots will get much better.
C) EV calcs, EV calcs, EV calcs
-use an Excel template for various common decisions (calling a river bet, shoving with FE, bluffing the river, thin value-betting the river, etc.), or use CardRunners EV.
-Don't just casually review your hand histories, and still wonder whether you made the right play or not. Actually figure out if you made the most +EV decision given the info you had on villain and his likely range. The math is the math.
-Change some variables (tweak his range, stack sizes, bet size, your hand/equity), and see how that affects the EV.
-The more you do this away from the table, the better intuitive feel you will have in a specific decision area at the table.
-Before plugging in all the numbers and solving in your excel sheet, you can work on mentally estimating your EV. Then compare your estimate with the actual EV. If you repeat this over and over and over again away from the table, you can actually get pretty good at doing EV calcs in your head while at the table.
D) ACTIVELY watch a training video
-It should take you more than 40 minutes to watch a 40 minute training video.
-During each interesting hand in the video, don't wait for the coach to tell you what action he will take and why he thinks it is best. Pause the video, and ask: What would I do in this situation? Why?
Then resume the video and see what the coach says. If you agree with the coach, now you have some positive reinforcement for what was likely a good decision all-around. If you disagree, pause again, get Stove out, refine villain's range, do an EV calc, and figure out whether you or the video instructor was (more) right. Don't just take the lines they advocate as gospel. You're a thinking player; you have a mind of your own.
E) Playing Blind
-drop down one or two levels, open up 2 or 3 tables, and cover up the hole cards on your screen with scraps of paper or anything you can think of
-Handread, handread, handread. Develop the habit of going through the same step-by-step decision process on every hand:
1) What is his range? Articulate it clearly in your head or even say it aloud.
2) What is his perception of my range? Not what is my actual range, but what does he or she think I could have.
3) Where does my actual hand fit into that?
4) What will he do? (If I call? If I raise?) Not what he should do, or what you would do. What will he do?
5) What is the most +EV action? (consider ALL options and ALL sizes)
-Obviously in this drill you cut out step 3 because you have XX air. You're simply looking for +EV bluffing opportunities given his range and your perceived range. But most importantly, you're forcing yourself to actively drill your handreading ability; and you're forcing yourself to develop the habit and discipline of going through a proper logical decision-making process on every hand, rather than randomly thinking about different things in different hands.
F) Are you mental?
-Work on your mental game (tilt control, poker mindset, etc.) a little bit every day
-See Jared Tendler & Tommy Angelo's writings/videos for specific things to work on each day, but you should develop a discipline where every day you do something like, for example, 10 minutes of deep breathing or visualizing situations where your emotions might come into play at the table, and how you will deal with those emotions. Some people suggest writing down whatever thoughts creep up in your head immediately after you take a bad beat or get stuck a couple buy-ins early in a session or while you're in the midst of a downswing (or an upswing to fight complacency). This all may sound like a bunch of new age b.s., but I can assure you it WILL impact your bottom line. Elite athletes do this; there's no reason why a serious poker player shouldn't. Every major pro sports teach has a “mental toughness coach” or a sports psychologist on staff. Most of you should be spending as much or more time working on this area of your game as you spend working on actual poker theory/strategy.
G) Drilla in Flopzilla
-give villain a preflop range, enter in a board like Axxr or J98ss, and estimate how often his range has hit TP or better vs. how often he has air. Compare with the actual results flopzilla gives you. Also estimate how often he has an OESD or FD, and then realize how wildly off mark some of you paranoid f***s are to repeatedly make protecting your tpnk against a draw the centerpiece of your decision-making process
H) HEM work
-database analysis to find leaks, answer questions about the profitability of various plays in various situations, or review how specific villain types actually play in your games in various situations (you could use the HEM Vision app). Most of the training sites have at least one video or series devoted to DB analysis (sthief09 on DC, vitalmyth on Cardrunners), or you can hire a leakfinder coach like mpethyridge to help you get started.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...-nlhe-1107105/

[maliprofi]

AtomAnt wrote: glede na to da premaguješ igro in služiš 90e na uro.. se ti ne zdi pametno pavzirati eno leto in poskusiti biti poker pro .. 10k na mesec ni slaba plača. edge so vsake 3 mesece manjši

slaba ideja.

[scientiam-deum]

Lp sem pogledal film, ki si ga posnel. very impressive! Glede low-limi hyperjev 3,5$ dalje, kje se dobi kakšno gradivo kakšni free filmčki ali kakšen coaching, ki je cenej od tvojga (za low limit je 100$ preveč), pač glede na to, da si v teh vodah, mogoče veš. Kako si ti začel ?? Vem, da je zelo relavantno ampak, če premaguješ te low limite 7$ in pa 15$ kolik se, da zaslužit tako na 100turnirjev v povprečju? Se sploh, da to ocenit? Ali cca. 2000hyperjev na mesec??
Lp lamaj še naprej

[zorzak]

Hvala mi je ql da ti je ušeč
Free filmčkov maš nekaj na husng.com, drugač pa 2+2 forum, husng sekcija, je itak majka...jst sm se tam daleč največ naučil, na začetku še posebej...
hmmm ja zaslužek za n turnirjev je buy-in*ROI*n ane (zdej sicer nevem če je rake v tem ROI-u ki ti ga da holdem manager že upoštevan ali ne...če ni, morš še to upoštevat...)...tko da čist od tvojga ROI-a odvisno sam si zračuni...jst sm mel nekje 5-6 % ROI na teh limitih fyi